I agree, 3 or more rings to be in contention with MJ and Kobe. Couldn't agree more about needing a PG and Center. Mario Chalmers did a pretty good job this year and hit some big shots, but they need a better passer (Steve Nash to Miami anyone? haha I can only dream). With those 3 though, they shouldn't loose as many games as they did or are going to loose. There are a lot of people that are expecting that much and even more out of them. They definitely face a lot of pressure. If Melo plays like Melo, Linnsanity not hurt, Stoude playing like he did back when he was a Sun, and then you add Steve Nash into that mix? I'm worried about them for sure. I feel that they aren't playing up to their potential as a group, yes they all have had shinning moments individually, but still not as a group. I think that's what the Heat's problem was last year, they played better as a group this year than ever. If the Knicks get it figured out like that, then the East will be in trouble. Don't forget about Indiana as well, they've got a bunch of young, rising talent, who will just keep getting better in the next 4 seasons. Boston is rebuilding since their "big 3" is old as dirt, and if Rose is healthy then the Bulls are back in contention as well.