up here i have had to run 5 psi at one time. sand is fun but u cant just go out on it and drive lol u need to know how to drive on sand. i have never been stuck at the sand dunes or in sand. and mamba this story remind me of when the dumbasses over at another ranger forum did this and both framed out in the sand and i had to be the rescueing ranger. f350 long bed crew cab no lift and street tires bottomed out on the crest of test hill which is afew 100 feet high. and than the f150 little lift and street tires tries pulling him out and frames it.