his thread on it: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/84963-satoshi-grill-mod-build-thread-pic-heavy.html what do you think? its the mesh/satoshi grille design im going for. id like to cut all the posts out of the grille like this guy did, but, im tying to think of a better looking way to fasten the mesh to the outershell than the zip ties he has. if you have suggestions let me know!!